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C.S.M.P. Digest             Sat, 27 Jan 96       Volume 3 : Issue 133

Today's Topics:

        Checking for QuickTime
        Creating aliases
        Detecting <Option> + Double-Click
        Drag & Drop - Why is finder different?
        File I-O
        First OS for Quicktime?
        How to render DECENT 256 color sprites
        Launching Application on Remote Mac CPU
        MakeRGBPat Sucks (and how you can do better)
        MoveControl Doesn't Change Dialog Item Rect
        Newbie help with events....
        Oh where has my CODE 0 gone?
        The Required Apple Events (i.e. are they)
        Turning on Sharing
        [ANN] MoreFiles v1.4.1 now available



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>From [e-mail] (GeoffPrice)
Subject: Checking for QuickTime
Date: 4 Jan 1996 15:12:23 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

Can anyone let me know what the correct way to check for the presence of
QuickTime is, and save me the experimental hassle?

My old Think (PM v7) headers don't know about "gestaltQuickTimeVersion",
so I'm passing 'qtim' to Gestalt as a literal.  I understand this returns
a version number;  what's the format of this version number?  (e.g.
0x0200?)

What does it return if QT is not installed (0?)

Thanks
Geoff Price
Intellimation / Caliban Mindwear
[e-mail]

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>From [e-mail] (Rene G.A. Ros)
Date: 6 Jan 1996 19:54:19 +0100
Organization: VU Biology, Amsterdam, The Netherlands

GeoffPrice ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Can anyone let me know what the correct way to check for the presence of
: QuickTime is, and save me the experimental hassle?

: My old Think (PM v7) headers don't know about "gestaltQuickTimeVersion",
: so I'm passing 'qtim' to Gestalt as a literal.  I understand this returns
: a version number;  what's the format of this version number?  (e.g.
: 0x0200?)

**NumVersion**
     The format of the LongInt response can be coerced into type NumVersion,
     which is the same format as used for the 'vers' resource type.

     type
      NumVersion = packed record
       case INTEGER of
        0: (majorRev: SignedByte;  {1st part of version number in BCD}
            minorRev: 0..9;        {2nd part is 1 nibble in BCD}
            bugFixRev: 0..9;       {3rd part is 1 nibble in BCD}
            stage: SignedByte;     {stage code: dev, alpha, beta, final}
            nonRelRev: SignedByte);{revision level of non-released version}
        1: (version: LONGINT);     {to use all 4 fields at one time}
       end;

     stage is one of: 0x20 = development
                      0x40 = alpha
                      0x60 = beta
                      0x80 = final

: What does it return if QT is not installed (0?)

Nothing, the selector isn't installed and you get an error back fromthe
Gestalt call (gestaltUndefSelectorErr).

Bye,
Rene Ros
Editor Gestalt Selectors List (use URL below to see it online)

--
  Rene G.A. Ros                                               [e-mail]
  Amsterdam, The Netherlands                 http://www.bio.vu.nl/home/rgaros/
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  HAPPY NEW YEAR!                                          GELUKKIG NIEUWJAAR!

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>From [e-mail] (Erichsen)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 07:37:09 -0700
Organization: Disorganized

GeoffPrice ([e-mail]) wrote:
> Can anyone let me know what the correct way to check for the presence of
> QuickTime is, and save me the experimental hassle?

Get DTS QuickTime Utilities. It's a bunch of utility routines by Apple DTS
for QuickTime. It has a routine that checks if QuickTime is installed and
gets its version, checks for QuickTime Musical Instruments, etc...They
work correctly on a PowerPC too. It's on Apple's site.

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>From [e-mail] (John Tomlinson)
Subject: Creating aliases
Date: 4 Jan 1996 04:57:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

I'm writing a program where I can drag from an application window to
the Finder, and creating an alias if the drag succeeds.  I've finally
gotten it to the point where the drag doesn't bounce or cause the
application to crash, but the "aliases" created are weirdly broken.

Here's a code snippet to illustrate my method:

(snip)

NewDrag(&drag);
itemRef = (ItemReference)myPort      // "myPort" is a GrafPtr used by
                                     // my app
promiseHFS.fileType = 'adrp';
FSpGetFInfo(&fileSpec,&finderInfo);  // "fileSpec" is a FSSpec variable
                                     // used by the app to store a link
                                     // to an application
promiseHFS.fileCreator = finderInfo.fdCreator;
promiseHFS.fdFlags = kIsAlias;
promiseHFS.promisedFlavor = flavorTypeHFS;
AddDragItemFlavor(drag,itemRef,flavorTypePromiseHFS,&promiseHFS,
        sizeof(PromiseHFSFlavor),0);
AddDragItemFlavor(drag,itemRef,flavorTypeHFS,nil,0,0);
SetDragSendProc(drag,SendDataProc,(void *)(&fileSpec));

(rest of drag stuff snipped)

And here is "SendDataProc":

pascal OSErr SendDataProc(FlavorType type, void *dragSendRefCon,
        ItemReference itemRef, DragReference drag)
{

(snip)

if (type == flavorTypeHFS)
{
        dataSize = sizeof(PromiseHFSFlavor);
        GetFlavorData(drag,itemRef,flavorTypePromiseHFS,(Ptr)&promiseHFS,
                &dataSize,0);
        flavorHFS.fileType = promiseHFS.fileType;
        flavorHFS.fileCreator = promiseHFS.fileCreator;
        NewAlias(nil,(FSSpec *)dragSendRefCon,&alias)
// also tried "NewAliasMinimal" here
        FindFolder(kOnSystemDisk,'temp',kCreateFolder,&vRefNum,&dirID);
        name = ConcatString(((FSSpec *)dragSendRefCon)->name,"\p alias");
// "ConcatString" merely concatenates two Pascal strings and returns the
// new string.  Seems to work.
        FSMakeFSSpec(&fileSpec,flavorHFS.fileCreator,flavorHFS.fileType,
                smCurrentScript);
        HGetFInfo(vRefNum,dirID,name,&finderInfo);
        finderInfo.fdFlags = flavorHFS.fdFlags;
        HSetFInfo(vRefNum,dirID,name,&finderInfo);
        FSpCreateResFile(&fileSpec,flavorHFS.fileCreator,flavorHFS.fileType,
                smCurrentScript);
        FSpOpenResFile(&fileSpec,fsWrPerm);
        AddResource((Handle)alias,'alis',128,"\p");
        WriteResource((Handle)alias);
        flavorHFS.fileSpec = fileSpec;
        SetDragItemFlavorData(drag,itemRef,flavorTypeHFS,&flavorHFS,
                sizeof(HFSFlavor),0);
        FSpDelete(&fileSpec);

(snip)

This procedure creates a file which in some respects acts like an alias.
It contains an 'alis' resource, it has the correct type and creator.
When double-clicked, it launches the app, but not as an alias, I think--
as a document of the app.  Hence, if I create an "alias" to (say)
DropStuff, I'll get a dialog box asking me if I want to save
"DropStuff.sit" (i. e. if I want to compress my "alias".)
The "alias" has a generic document icon, and when I check it with
ResEdit, the "is Alias" bit is turned off (sometimes.  Occasionaly
I obtained "aliases" with the bit set.  However, when I double-clicked
these "aliases", I get a dialog box saying "this isn't really an
alias (oops!)")

Apparently the 'alis' resource is corrupt, but how?

- John

[e-mail]

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>From [e-mail] (Jump Long)
Date: 5 Jan 1996 11:27:44 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

John Tomlinson wrote:
>I'm writing a program where I can drag from an application
>window to the Finder, and creating an alias if the drag
>succeeds.  I've finally gotten it to the point where the drag
>doesn't bounce or cause the application to crash, but the
>"aliases" created are weirdly broken.
> Here's a code snippet to illustrate my method:
>
>(snip)

The problem in your code is that your don't set the isAlias Finder flag.
That's what tells the system that the file is an alias file instead of a
just a data file.

Also, when creating the alias with NewAlias to put in an alias file, you
should set the fromFile parameter to NewAlias to refer to the alias file
itself. This will make your alias files more robust because when the
Finder resolves an alias from an alias file, it uses an FSSpec to the
alias file as the fromFile parameter passed to ResolveAlias.

Actually, what I should be telling you here is you should send the Finder
an AppleEvent to tell the Finder to create the alias file. Letting the
Finder create the alias file is a much more compatible way to create alias
files since you won't be depending on how the Finder creates alias files
now.

- Jim Luther

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>From Jeff Pritchard <[e-mail]>
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 18:48:59 -0700
Organization: NSI/INOW

if you use the finder to make an alias of an application and then
use resedit to get the file type of the alias file (use the open
command and click on the "use alias instead of real file" checkbox)
you will see that the finder does something different with aliases
(aliiiiii?) of applications.  Instead of copying the file type of
the application (APPL), it uses  'adrp' for the file type.

If you set your file type to adrp, I think you will find that the
aliases you are creating will work fine.  Mine do, and they are
created in a manner functionally equivalent to your method.

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>From [e-mail] (Totoro)
Subject: Detecting <Option> + Double-Click
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 12:45:39 -0700
Organization: Vega

Is there any way I can detect a different mode of launching an
application? For example, if a user launches an app while the user is
pressing the <Option> key, how do I trap it?

The reason is that my application might want to provide two execution
mode, one is normal one with menus and windows, but in other mode I want
the same app to do certain operations automatically.

Thanks,
Totoro

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>From [e-mail] (Pete Yared)
Date: 4 Jan 1996 00:10:41 GMT
Organization: Interactive Data Systems, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Totoro) wrote:

> Is there any way I can detect a different mode of launching an
> application? For example, if a user launches an app while the user is
> pressing the <Option> key, how do I trap it?

Use the GetKeys trap to check to see if a command key is getting held down
when your apps opens.  This is consistent with the FInder since when you
option drag to copy, the option key is checked when you finish the drag,
not when it is started.  However, option is a bad choice for what you're
doing because the Finder uses option double-click to close the folder the
document/app is in after a launch.  I would recommend using command
double-click instead.

Pete Yared
Interactive Data Systems, Inc.
Washington, DC
E-Mail: [e-mail]
WWW: http://www.idsinc.com
Anon FTP: ftp://ftp.idsinc.com

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>From [e-mail] (Eric M. Kidd)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 17:21:38 -0500
Organization: Dartmouth College

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Totoro) wrote:

> Is there any way I can detect a different mode of launching an
> application? For example, if a user launches an app while the user is
> pressing the <Option> key, how do I trap it?

You can't easily detect which keys were down when the user double-clicked
in the Finder, but you *can* check the keymap just as your application
launches. The following as-yet-untested snippet should return a bitfield
identical to the "modifiers" field of an EventRecord. Even if it doesn't
work as advertised, it should point you in the right direction.

//=========================================================================
// • GetModifiers
//=========================================================================
// Return the current status of the modifier keys and mouse button, as
// per the "modifiers" field in an EventRecord. We examine the virtual
// keymap directly using low-level Event Manager calls, and call Button( )
// to check the event queue for mouse-down events.
//
// See _Macintosh Toolbox Essentials_, p. 2-110, for documentation of
// the function GetKeys and the data structure KeyMap.

static unsigned short ModifierCodes[] = {
// Mask     Virtual Keycode
   cmdKey,     55,
   shiftKey,   56,
   shiftKey,   60,   // right-hand side of keyboard
   alphaLock,  57,
   optionKey,  58,
   optionKey,  61, //   "
   controlKey, 59,
   controlKey, 62,   // "
   0 };

# define BITS_IN_LONG   (32)

unsigned short GetModifiers( )
{
   KeyMap keyboardState;
   short index;
   short result;

      // Read the virtual keyboard map
   GetKeys( keyboardState );

      // Build our result. We walk our array of mask/keycode
      // pairs until we find a mask equal to zero.
   result = 0;
   for ( index = 0; ModifierCodes[index] != 0; index += 2 )
   {
      unsigned short currentMask, currentCode;
      unsigned short whichLong, whichBit;

         // Fetch our current entry
      currentMask = ModifierCodes[index];
      currentCode = ModifierCodes[index+1];

         // Translate virtual keycode to map offset.
      whichLong   = (currentCode-1) / BITS_IN_LONG;
      whichBit = (currentCode-1) % BITS_IN_LONG;

      if ( keyboardState[whichLong] & (1 << whichBit) )
         result |= currentMask;
   }

      // Check the mouse button. This actually looks
      // in the event queue for a mouse-down event;
      // it doesn't check the current mouse status.
   if ( Button( ) )
      result |= btnState;

   return result;
}


> The reason is that my application might want to provide two execution
> mode, one is normal one with menus and windows, but in other mode I want
> the same app to do certain operations automatically.

Typically, the second mode would be the "option". Also be sure to check
that you are in the foreground before looking for the option key--you
should ignore it if your application has somehow been launched as a
background process via Apple Events. I use the following code:

   if ( IsCurrentProcessForeground( ) )
      gModifiersHeldDownAtLaunch = GetModifiers( );
   else
      gModifiersHeldDownAtLaunch = 0; // no modifiers

The function IsCurrentProcessForeground is defined as:

//==========================================================================
// IsCurrentProcessForeground
//==========================================================================
// Returns true if the current process is also the foreground process, from
// the user's perspective. If an error occurs, assume it isn't.

Boolean IsCurrentProcessForeground( )
{
   ProcessSerialNumber current;
   ProcessSerialNumber front;
   Boolean result;
   OSErr err = noErr;

   RETURN_ON_ERR( GetCurrentProcess( ¤t ) );
   RETURN_ON_ERR( GetFrontProcess( &front ) );
   RETURN_ON_ERR( SameProcess( ¤t, &front, &result ) );

clean_up:
   return (err == noErr) ? result : false;
}

Good luck and have fun!

Cheers,
Eric

........................................................................
Eric Kidd ([e-mail])      http://coos.dartmouth.edu/~emk/
"Computers are useless.  They can only give you answers." -Pablo Picasso

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>From [e-mail] (Kerr Gibson)
Subject: Drag & Drop - Why is finder different?
Date: 29 Dec 1995 12:01:19 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University


Hi all,

Recently I was discussing with a co-worker how to extend some of our drag and
drop capabilities for our product.  In doing so we noticed that the finder
behaves differently than other products when dragging from it.

The finder remains in the background when dragging out of it to other
applications, however, any other program we look at activates first before
allowing the drag.  This is an extremely irritating anomoly.  The user expects
to select something in program A- go to  program B and then drag the selection
from program A to a window in Program B. But as soon as the user mouse downs in
program A- program A activates and (in many if not most instances) covers up
the destination area of program B.  Not only this, but program A will not have
drawn any of its content either so it is doubly irritating.

How is it then that the finder is able to remain in the background during a
mouse down?  We have looked all over the documentation for any indication of
how to impliment this in our app but cannot find the subject addressed.  The
nearest thing we found was in the drag&drop human interface guidelines and it
said the following:

'Historically, an inactive window becomes active upon a mouse-down event in
that window. Since the user may drag an item from an inactive window to the
frontmost window, and continue working in the frontmost window, this behavior
must be slightly modified so that, in a certain case described below, the
mouse-up event serves as the window-activation trigger, rather than the
mouse-down event.'

But this only seems to be talking about windows in the same app- not different
windows in different apps.  I can only assume that the finder code is cheating
somehow.

Anyway, are we missing something obvious here or is this something that cannot
be done?  I should mention also that sticky notes has this same problem, but
the scrapbook does not.

--
Kerr Gibson
- -------
Someday I'm gonna make a signature file...






--
Kerr Gibson              |
[e-mail] | Someday I'm gonna make a .signature file...

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>From [e-mail] (Ken Prehoda)
Date: Fri, 29 Dec 1995 14:32:07 -0600
Organization: Univ of Wisconsin-Madison, Dept of Biochemistry

In article <4c16sv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Kerr Gibson) wrote:

: Hi all,
:
: Recently I was discussing with a co-worker how to extend some of our drag and
: drop capabilities for our product.  In doing so we noticed that the finder
: behaves differently than other products when dragging from it.
:
: The finder remains in the background when dragging out of it to other
: applications, however, any other program we look at activates first before
: allowing the drag.  This is an extremely irritating anomoly.  The user expects
: to select something in program A- go to  program B and then drag the selection
: from program A to a window in Program B. But as soon as the user mouse
downs in
: program A- program A activates and (in many if not most instances) covers up
: the destination area of program B.  Not only this, but program A will not have
: drawn any of its content either so it is doubly irritating.
:
: How is it then that the finder is able to remain in the background during a
: mouse down?  We have looked all over the documentation for any indication of
: how to impliment this in our app but cannot find the subject addressed.  The
: nearest thing we found was in the drag&drop human interface guidelines and it
: said the following:


The finder registers a callback with the drag manager.  This stuff is
undocumented because the drag manager engineers felt that it was a really
skanky addition to the macintosh hackitecture.

Atleast that's the story I got when I asked about the undocumented callback.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Ken Prehoda                                              [e-mail]
Department of Biochemistry                         http://www.nmrfam.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin-Madison                             Tel: [phone]
420 Henry Mall                                              Fax: [phone]

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>From [e-mail] (Erichsen)
Date: 30 Dec 1995 02:13:20 GMT
Organization: Disorganized

In article <4c16sv$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Kerr Gibson) wrote:

>The finder remains in the background when dragging out of it to other
>applications, however, any other program we look at activates first before
>allowing the drag.  This is an extremely irritating anomoly.  The user expects
>to select something in program A- go to  program B and then drag the selection
>from program A to a window in Program B. But as soon as the user mouse downs in
>program A- program A activates and (in many if not most instances) covers up
>the destination area of program B.  Not only this, but program A will not have
>drawn any of its content either so it is doubly irritating.

The Finder uses an undocumented callback that lets you decide whether to
activate your app or not. Check out the source for WASTE, in the demo he
shows how to do it.

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>From Kerr Gibson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 11:21:30 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics

Erichsen wrote:
>
> The Finder uses an undocumented callback that lets you decide whether to
> activate your app or not. Check out the source for WASTE, in the demo he
> shows how to do it.

Well I got WASTE 1.2a4 and compiled the demo in the Symantec Project
Manager.  The demo had the same problem as everyone else. I made a
window and selected text and then activated the finder.  Then I
attempted to drag the text out of the deactivated demo.  All that
happened was that the demo activated and the text did not even drag
at all.  I looked through the code for this callback but could not
seem to locate it.  Perhaps there is some kind of switch in the demo
I have to turn on?  I'm not doubting your word, maybe I am just
missing something.

--
Kerr Gibson
- -------
Someday I'm gonna make a signature file...

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>From [e-mail] (Erichsen)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 14:36:27 -0700
Organization: Disorganized

In article <[e-mail]>, Kerr Gibson
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Well I got WASTE 1.2a4 and compiled the demo in the Symantec Project
>Manager.  The demo had the same problem as everyone else. I made a
>window and selected text and then activated the finder.  Then I
>attempted to drag the text out of the deactivated demo.  All that
>happened was that the demo activated and the text did not even drag
>at all.  I looked through the code for this callback but could not
>seem to locate it.  Perhaps there is some kind of switch in the demo
>I have to turn on?  I'm not doubting your word, maybe I am just
>missing something.

Sorry, it looks like they've removed it from 1.2a4. Here's the file from
an older demo of WASTE that shows how to do it. I've attached it here.
It's in Pascal but, easy to convert to C or something else.


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>From Kerr Gibson <[e-mail]>
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:24:37 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics

Erichsen wrote:
>
> Sorry, it looks like they've removed it from 1.2a4. Here's the file from
> an older demo of WASTE that shows how to do it. I've attached it here.
> It's in Pascal but, easy to convert to C or something else.
>

Thanks a lot- I will look into it.

--
Kerr Gibson
- -------
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>From Kerr Gibson <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 15:40:39 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Mathematics

Kerr Gibson wrote:
>
> Erichsen wrote:
> >
> > Sorry, it looks like they've removed it from 1.2a4. Here's the file from
> > an older demo of WASTE that shows how to do it. I've attached it here.
> > It's in Pascal but, easy to convert to C or something else.
> >
>
> Thanks a lot- I will look into it.


OK, that worked out great.

If anyone is interested, we hacked together this system callback in
Symantec C++.  We even got it to work for the Power PC.  So if
somebody wants this in WASTE or any other code, we are willing to
give it out.  Otherwise I guess we will just keep it to ourselves.

--
Kerr Gibson
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>From [e-mail] (John VanderZwaag)
Subject: File I-O
Date: 10 Jan 1996 01:47:45 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

I'm coming from a Unix environment - how do Mac programmers do file i/o?  Do you
actually use FSWrite/FSRead?  This seems more difficult than FILE stream.  Are there
comparable Mac functions?  I want to use actual Mac calls and not resort to
cheating as it seems to have been deemed sinful to do in the Real World.

Any help would be more than greatly appreciated.

--
john vander zwaag
[e-mail]
[e-mail]
http://www.sarc.msstate.edu/Homepages/john

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>From [e-mail] (Jump Long)
Date: 10 Jan 1996 02:15:17 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

John VanderZwaag wrote:
>I'm coming from a Unix environment - how do Mac programmers do
>file i/o?  Do you actually use FSWrite/FSRead?  This seems more
>difficult than FILE stream.  Are there comparable Mac functions?
> I want to use actual Mac calls and not resort to  cheating as
>it seems to have been deemed sinful to do in the Real World.
>
>Any help would be more than greatly appreciated.

I actually use FSRead and FSWrite (when I'm not using PBRead and PBWrite),
but then, I'm probably more comfortable with the File Manager than most
after supporting it for several years.

Many other programmers use a standard I/O library, or a streams library
(like TCL or PowerPlant provide) built on top of the File Manager and are
happy with that.

The biggest advantage you get using the File Manager directly is closer
control at a lower level. For example, with PBRead, you can set a bit that
tells the file system to not cache I/O if possible - something you
probably have no control over when you use a library.  The advantages of
using standard I/O libraries that come with your development environment
are: 1) you're probably familiar with it and 2) it probably provides you
with buffered I/O.

If you decide to use the File Manager routines, you might also want to
look at the sample code/library MoreFiles. It shows how to do lots of
common File Manager related things that are Macintosh specific. For
example, getting a list of file in a specific directory. You can get the
latest version of MoreFiles at:

  ftp://members.aol.com/JumpLong/MoreFiles_1.4.1.sea.hqx

Have fun,
Jim Luther

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>From [e-mail] (Don Sample)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 17:15:09 -0500
Organization: Enerprise Solutions Ltd

In article <4cv5s1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
VanderZwaag) wrote:

>I'm coming from a Unix environment - how do Mac programmers do file i/o?
Do you
>actually use FSWrite/FSRead?  This seems more difficult than FILE
stream.  Are there
>comparable Mac functions?  I want to use actual Mac calls and not resort to
>cheating as it seems to have been deemed sinful to do in the Real World.
>
>Any help would be more than greatly appreciated.
>
>--

If you really want to use them, every Mac C programming environment which
I am aware of provides an ANSI standard library with the various FILE
stream function calls.

But using the Mac FSpXxxx and FSXxxxx function calls aren't really any
more difficult than the ANSI fxxxxx calls, Especially if you start trying
to open files in multiple directories.

--
Don Sample ([e-mail])           |  Quando Omni Flunkus
Enterprise Solutions Ltd.               |        Moritati
http://www.esltd.com/esl_people/sample/ |

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>From [e-mail] (Gary M. Greenberg)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 19:49:32 -0500
Organization: Southeast Network Services, Inc.

In article <4cv5s1$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (John
VanderZwaag) wrote:

> I'm coming from a Unix environment - how do Mac programmers do file
i/o?  Do you
> actually use FSWrite/FSRead?  This seems more difficult than FILE
stream.  Are there
> comparable Mac functions?  I want to use actual Mac calls and not resort to
> cheating as it seems to have been deemed sinful to do in the Real World.
>
You've been told, but I use FILE and fopen(), fclose(), et al.

I've mostly had to be ANSI C compatible and the Mac handles it just fine.
Portablility has been my issue ...

Lo, I await the day when I become a Toolbox power-user ;-)

ciao4now,

gary /* the Sorcerer's Apprentice */

"Why do we have to hide from the police, Daddy?" | Truth:
"Because we use vi, honey. They use emacs."      | This .sig is pirated


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>From [e-mail] (Chuck E's In Love... McMath)
Subject: First OS for Quicktime?
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 17:16:50 -0500
Organization: Reed Technology & Information Services, Inc.

I've got an easy question: at what OS revision did QuickTime first appear,
and what is the first OS where it gets installed as part of the OS
itself?  I thought it was part of 7.0, but other people don't agree, and I
can't find any written confirmation of when it was packed into the system.

Thanks in advance,

chuck

|-- Chuck McMath -- [e-mail] -or-- [e-mail] -----|
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|-- 20251 Century Blvd. -- Germantown, MD  20874 -------------------|
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>From [e-mail] (Jay Farrell)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 20:51:58 -0500
Organization: Jayfar's Web

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Chuck E's In Love... McMath) wrote:

| I've got an easy question: at what OS revision did QuickTime first appear,
| and what is the first OS where it gets installed as part of the OS
| itself?  I thought it was part of 7.0, but other people don't agree, and I
| can't find any written confirmation of when it was packed into the system.

It isn't part of the System yet, if you mean in the sense of it being in
the System file.  It is an extension, or several extensions if you need
Quicktime Musical Instruments or QuickTime PowerPlug (PPC).

Just as well, I save some ram by not loading it when I don't intend to use it.

Cheers,
Jayfar

   ////~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~////
  ////   The Mops Page    <URL:http://www.netaxs.com/~jayfar/mops.html>    ////
 ////~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~////
////   Mops is Mike Hore's freeware Forth/Smalltalk hybrid for Macintosh ////
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Jay Farrell     [e-mail]        Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA

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>From [e-mail] (Chris Thomas)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 19:12:49 -0800
Organization: Echo Software

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Chuck E's In Love... McMath) wrote:

> I've got an easy question: at what OS revision did QuickTime first appear,
> and what is the first OS where it gets installed as part of the OS
> itself?  I thought it was part of 7.0, but other people don't agree, and I
> can't find any written confirmation of when it was packed into the system.

It works (or used to work) with 6.0.7.  I think it was released between
7.0 and 7.1. It's still not packed into the System.  It is installed by
the 7.5 installer, and I think it was first installed by installers for
some of the 7.1 variants (7.1.1, 7.1.2).

--
Chris Thomas, [e-mail]


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>From [e-mail] (V)
Subject: How to render DECENT 256 color sprites
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 11:52:31 -0500
Organization: BBN


Can I ask what software y'all are using to render your sprites?
I have seen numerous games out there with REALLY nice sprites
when only using 256 colors.

I'm writing yet another Ultima type clone and I need graphics!!
I've been trying to draw shapes and such in thousands and try
to convert them down to 256 with horrible results.

I have access to photoshop and infini-D (both at work).

Should I buy a texture-making plug-in?

I can't afford to pay someone to do my graphics..
How can I find someone on the net who can create some for me
in exchange for partial income from the game when it ships?
(shareware really).

Also, is there a cheap 3-d rendering package that will give me
decent results with 256 colors?

   -V-

--
Opinions expressed are probably my own.

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>From [e-mail] (Jason Regier)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 10:29:10 -0800
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (V) wrote:
> I'm writing yet another Ultima type clone and I need graphics!!
> I've been trying to draw shapes and such in thousands and try
> to convert them down to 256 with horrible results.
>
For AmoebArena, almost all of the artwork was rendered on a PC in 24-bit
color  and the result was converted to 256 colors to conserve memory.
Even though it's in the 8-bit system palette, we've gotten lots of
compliments about the artwork.

How did we do it?  Well, for starters, see if your 3D program will render
to a specified palette or bit depth.  I think Infini-D does allow this.
Rendering your graphics directly to 256 colors will probably look better
than rendering in 24-bit and dithering down to 8-bit.

Although I didn't completely like the way Photoshop dithered graphics down
to 8-bit color (I found lots of white pixels scattered all over in some
cases) we took the images in RGB format, and converted them to Indexed
Color.  For our case, we used System Palette - Diffusion.  There's a lot
of different colors in AmoebArena, and for simplicity (and so things
looked good) we chose to work within the system palette rather than use a
custom palette.  If you'd rather use a custom palette, I'm almost certain
Photoshop will generate one for you.  If I'm not mistaken, go to Indexed
color, select Exact, and Photoshop will choose exactly which colors you
picture needs and stores them in a clut when saving your PICT.  You can
copy the clut and the PICT resource over to your game's resource file, and
access them both to bring your beauty to the screen.

Well, I hope you haven't tried the above with no success.  If things STILL
don't look good, there most likely isn't much you can do except take your
8-bit sprites and go over them by hand and touch them up so they look
right.

Good luck!
Jason

--
Jason Regier
GlobalStar Software Engineer
QUALCOMM, Inc.
[phone]
[e-mail]

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>From [e-mail] (Reevan McKay)
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 06:13:59 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

Jason Regier ([e-mail]) wrote:

> Rendering your graphics directly to 256 colors will probably look better
> than rendering in 24-bit and dithering down to 8-bit.

        True, although another thing to consider is to avoid dithering
your sprites when you map them to 8 bits.  Dithering tends to look very
silly unless it is done carefully.  If you are using photoshop, try using
the "None" option under "Dithering": the color match won't be quite as
exact, but your customers will never know the difference... and they won't
see (shudder) horrible dithering.

        A note on PShop palettes...  They are NOT stored as CLUTs (at
least not in v 2.51).  They are pure data files, 768 bytes long, I
believe.  There are always 256 entries, though spare (unused) entries
contain the color black.  Each entry is three bytes, each representing a
value from 0-255 for Red, Green and Blue respectively.  I think I've got a
code chunk sitting around which reads a PShop palette and converts it to a
color table for your application's use.  If you can't get it work on your
own, let me know and I'll see what I can dig up (HINT: Get _Inside_Macintosh:_
Files_ if you haven't already).

> (take your)
> 8-bit sprites and go over them by hand and touch them up so they look
> right.

        This is almost an inevitability anyways.

> Good luck!
> Jason
Ditto

- --------------------------------------------------------------------
Mikado
Second Year Architecture
Carleton University

"Jesus was an architect, previous to his career as a prophet."

Email address: [e-mail]
- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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>From Richard Gaitskell <[e-mail]>
Subject: Launching Application on Remote Mac CPU
Date: 3 Jan 1996 01:51:02 GMT
Organization: Center for Particle Astrophysics, Berkeley

Is there a way to launch a new application on a remote Macintosh's CPU
assuming you can connect to the Mac via an AppleTalk/Ethernet network
and have the appropriate access privileges ?

I believe the commercial package "Timbuktu" permits you to take over a
remote machine. However, is there a way to simply launch an application
by sending an instruction to the remote mac's Finder using AppleScript ?


Rick Gaitskell
Center for Particle Astrophysics
UC Berkeley, CA

[e-mail]



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>From [e-mail] (Joe Zobkiw)
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 19:55:08 -0500
Organization: TripleSoft Inc.

In article <4ccne6$[e-mail]>, Richard Gaitskell
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Is there a way to launch a new application on a remote Macintosh's CPU
>assuming you can connect to the Mac via an AppleTalk/Ethernet network
>and have the appropriate access privileges ?
>
>I believe the commercial package "Timbuktu" permits you to take over a
>remote machine. However, is there a way to simply launch an application
>by sending an instruction to the remote mac's Finder using AppleScript ?

Make sure Program Linking is enabled on the receiving machine and send an
AppleEvent to the Finder on that machine. Assuming you know the location
of the file, you can launch it quite easily. Another way is to write a
small "server" application that uses the PPC Toolbox. This runs on the
remote machine and gives you access to the specific files you need.
Depending on your needs, the PPC Toolbox/AppleEvents is probably a good
way to go.

Joe Zobkiw                         <mailto:[e-mail]>
TripleSoft Inc.                      <http://www.triplesoft.com/>
Specializing in Custom Macintosh Software Development & Solutions
- ---------------------------------------------------------------
Macintosh programmers! Check out "A Fragment of Your Imagination"
   from Addison-Wesley <http://www.triplesoft.com/fragment/>

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++

>From [e-mail] (Jump Long)
Date: 12 Jan 1996 05:37:48 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

Richard Gaitskell wrote:
>Is there a way to launch a new application on a remote
>Macintosh's CPU assuming you can connect to the Mac via an
>AppleTalk/Ethernet network  and have the appropriate access
>privileges ?
>
>I believe the commercial package "Timbuktu" permits you to take
>over a  remote machine. However, is there a way to simply launch
>an application  by sending an instruction to the remote mac's
>Finder using AppleScript ?

If you have program linking turned ON on the remote system, you can use
this AppleScript:

tell application "Finder" of machine "RemoteMac" of zone "Zone"
  open file "volume:directory:myApp"
end tell

- Jim Luther

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>From [e-mail] (C.K. Haun)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 10:22:36 -0800
Organization: Be, Inc.

> >Is there a way to launch a new application on a remote
> >Macintosh's CPU assuming you can connect to the Mac via an
> >AppleTalk/Ethernet network  and have the appropriate access
> >privileges ?
> If you have program linking turned ON on the remote system, you can use
> this AppleScript:
> tell application "Finder" of machine "RemoteMac" of zone "Zone"
>   open file "volume:directory:myApp"
> end tell

You can also send the same event directly by sending a OpenSelection event
to the remote Finder (that's what APpelScript is doing in this case).
Note a few things;
1) You must supply the *full path* to the item. You can't use a relative
path and can't use a file alias
2) If you get it wrong, the remote Mac will display a really weird and
unusual error dialog to the user on the remote Mac, which could be
confusing.  Or as Jim will confirm, sometimes amusing.
3) There is no confirmation that this actually worked.  You will have to
wait an appropriate period of time and try and find the newly lanched
application yourself through the PPC browser or IPCListPorts.
4) The sample "FinderOpenSel 2.x" has code to do this in it.
C.K. Haun
The Developer Guy @ Be, Inc.

--
C.K. Haun
[e-mail]
                  The Mild Bunch
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1993 Virago 535         1987 Reflex 225


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>From [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Subject: MakeRGBPat Sucks (and how you can do better)
Date: 31 Dec 1995 10:03:03 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology

A game I'm writing really shines in thousands and millions of colors because
it has access to all the colors it needs. In 256 colors, some colors didn't
look all that good.

The Apple System palette has a map of 6x6x6 colors (216 colors) plus some
gray shades and shades of pure red/green/blue that are not in the 6x6x6
map.

My first idea was to use a custom palette for some of the more critical
colors. The problem is that I wasn't sure which colors I should give up
from the default 256 for these colors. All in all, it seemed like a messy
solution.

In 4 and 16 colors I have always used MakeRGBPat and used the resulting
patterns instead of solid colors.

So, I examined my drawing code and found that doing a patterned fill in
8 bit mode wasn't any more expensive than the solid fill.

The next step was to use MakeRGBPat to make 2x2 patterns from the 256
color palette.

That's where I ran into problems. The patterns draw just fine and in
some cases they looked ok. In many cases, the patterns would look really
bad. MakeRGBPat uses up to four colors, but usually it only uses two and
it tries to balance them so that they average to the requested color. In
many cases it just does a very bad job and gives me an almost white when
I requested something quite different. Using only the top two colors
helped a bit for some reason, so I started suspecting that MakeRGBPat
wasn't doing it right.
So, the next approach was to roll my own RGBPat. I decided to keep it
simple and only use two colors in a patter like this:

        A B
        B A

A pattern like this is very hard to detect on most monitors. I have to
look really closely on my 16" Apple RGB monitor to see the patterns if
A and B are close in color.

The first step is to use Color2Index to request color A. This is the main
color of the pattern and should be closest thing that can be found to the
color we want.

Then, we find out what this index really maps to by calling Index2Color.
This enables us to calculate the different between A and the color we
really needed (call it N). I use a simple distance estimator function
to get the distance in RGB space.

If the distance is 0, we have an exact match and the pattern can be
a solid where B = A.

Next, we have to figure out what a good B would be. The ideal case would
be that the average of A and B would be N. So if (A+B)/2 = N, then we
get that B = 2N - A. We use Color2Index to find the closest color to B.
We convert this index back to RGB and calculate (A+B)/2. This is the
color we get when we mix A and B on the screen. If the distance between
N and (A+B)/2 is smaller than the distance between N and A, we use the
color B in the pattern, otherwise we use a solid A pattern.

Now I wasn't sure how this would work. I felt a bit stupid writing
something as simple as this, when Apple in its wisdom provided a
function that _should_ do better.

To my surprise, my algorithm produces extremely pleasing results. If I
look at the screen from a typical viewing distance, it's hard to tell
the difference between 256 and millions of colors (in my application).

There are none of the awful artifacts that I got with MakeRGBPat. I
find it hard to believe that MakeRGBPat would even be any faster,
because the only expensive calls that I make are the two calls to
Color2Index.

--
Juri Munkki [e-mail]              Life is easy when polygons are cheap.
http://www.iki.fi/~jmunkki                 Windsurfing: Faster than the wind.

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>From Matt Slot <[e-mail]>
Date: 31 Dec 1995 18:42:24 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

Juri Munkki, [e-mail] writes:
 > So, the next approach was to roll my own RGBPat.

Your description of the technique is excellent, but is there
any chance you could post the corresponding code you've written
for your "BetterRGBPat()" function?

Matt

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>From [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Date: 1 Jan 1996 05:49:08 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology

In article <4c6lig$[e-mail]> Matt Slot <[e-mail]> writes:
>Juri Munkki, [e-mail] writes:
> > So, the next approach was to roll my own RGBPat.
>
>Your description of the technique is excellent, but is there
>any chance you could post the corresponding code you've written
>for your "BetterRGBPat()" function?

The problem is that I do all my own rendering (Quickdraw is used to
manage colors and graphics devices and that's it), so when I removed
the call to MakeRGBPat, I also changed my code so that it directly
writes into my own structures (for 8 bit devices a 4 x 2 pixels).

So, the function only covers 8 bit pixmaps and doesn't create a real
pixel pattern.

Since you asked so kindly, here it is. Don't expect it to compile,
because the distance estimator is not there (you can use the sum
of squares, if you want really accurate results, but watch the
number ranges for overflows).

It's also just my first draft at the algorithm.

void    Build8BitColorMap(
        PolyDevice              **aPolyDevice,
        PolyColorTable  *aColorTable)
{
        GDHandle                savedGD;
        GrafPtr                 saved;
        RGBColor                tempColor;
        long                    colorA;
        short                   i;
        char                    *dest;
        Handle                  destTable;

        GetPort(&saved);
        savedGD = GetGDevice();

        SetGDevice((*aPolyDevice)->itsDevice);

        destTable = (*aPolyDevice)->colorMap;
        SetHandleSize(destTable,aColorTable->polyColorCount * 8L);
        HLock(destTable);

        dest = *destTable;

        for(i=0;i<aColorTable->polyColorCount;i++)
        {       RGBColor        friendColor;
                long            colorB;
                long            redDelta, greenDelta, blueDelta;
                long            oneErr, twoErr;

                colorA = (*aColorTable->colorEntryHandle)[i].color;

                tempColor.red = ((unsigned char *)&colorA)[1];
                tempColor.green = ((unsigned char *)&colorA)[2];
                tempColor.blue = ((unsigned char *)&colorA)[3];

                tempColor.red += tempColor.red << 8;
                tempColor.green += tempColor.green << 8;
                tempColor.blue += tempColor.blue << 8;

                colorA = Color2Index(&tempColor);
                Index2Color(colorA, &friendColor);

                redDelta = friendColor.red - (long)tempColor.red;
                greenDelta = friendColor.green - (long)tempColor.green;
                blueDelta = friendColor.blue - (long)tempColor.blue;

                oneErr = FDistanceOverEstimate(redDelta, greenDelta, blueDelta);

                if(oneErr)
                {       redDelta = tempColor.red - redDelta;
                        greenDelta = tempColor.green - greenDelta;
                        blueDelta = tempColor.blue - blueDelta;

#define BOUNDVALUE(a)   ((a < 0) ? 0 : ((a > 65536) ? 65535 : a))

                        friendColor.red = BOUNDVALUE(redDelta);
                        friendColor.green = BOUNDVALUE(greenDelta);
                        friendColor.blue = BOUNDVALUE(blueDelta);

                        colorB = Color2Index(&friendColor);
                        Index2Color(colorB, &friendColor);

                        friendColor.red = (friendColor.red + (long)tempColor.red) >> 1;
                        friendColor.green = (friendColor.green + (long)tempColor.green) >> 1;
                        friendColor.blue = (friendColor.blue + (long)tempColor.blue) >> 1;

                        redDelta = tempColor.red - (long)friendColor.red;
                        greenDelta = tempColor.green - (long)friendColor.green;
                        blueDelta = tempColor.blue - (long)friendColor.blue;

                        twoErr = FDistanceOverEstimate(redDelta, greenDelta, blueDelta);

                        if(twoErr > oneErr)
                        {       colorB = colorA;
                        }
                }
                else
                {       colorB = colorA;
                }

                //      Form a pattern using the two pixels:
                *dest++ = colorA;       *dest++ = colorB;       *dest++ = colorA;       *dest++ = colorB;
                *dest++ = colorB;       *dest++ = colorA;       *dest++ = colorB;       *dest++ = colorA;

        }

        HUnlock(destTable);
        SetGDevice(savedGD);
        SetPort(saved);
}


--
Juri Munkki [e-mail]              Life is easy when polygons are cheap.
http://www.iki.fi/~jmunkki                 Windsurfing: Faster than the wind.

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>From [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Date: 3 Jan 1996 03:22:03 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology

I ran an exhaustive test of my two-color version of MakeRGBPat using the
default system palette and default inverse tables and color matching.

Apple says that MakeRGBPat will get you 2197 colors using a four color
2x2 pattern.

I'm using a two color 2x2 pattern. I thought I would only get a few
hundred colors or so using my own method, but guess what? I get 2505
unique color matches.

Inside Mac admits that the algorithm is optimized for speed rather than
quality, but I still say they are doing a bad job in 8 bit color.

I also went for the simplest approach I could think of. It takes an
average of 64 microseconds to make one pattern on a Quadra 700, which
means that the entire 24 bit color space was matched in 18 minutes.

--
Juri Munkki [e-mail]              Life is easy when polygons are cheap.
http://www.iki.fi/~jmunkki                 Windsurfing: Faster than the wind.

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>From [e-mail] (Chris Thomas)
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 21:13:14 -0800
Organization: Echo Software

In article <4ccsor$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Juri Munkki) wrote:

> I ran an exhaustive test of my two-color version of MakeRGBPat using the
> default system palette and default inverse tables and color matching.
>
> Apple says that MakeRGBPat will get you 2197 colors using a four color
> 2x2 pattern.
>
> I'm using a two color 2x2 pattern. I thought I would only get a few
> hundred colors or so using my own method, but guess what? I get 2505
> unique color matches.
>
> Inside Mac admits that the algorithm is optimized for speed rather than
> quality, but I still say they are doing a bad job in 8 bit color.
>
> I also went for the simplest approach I could think of. It takes an
> average of 64 microseconds to make one pattern on a Quadra 700, which
> means that the entire 24 bit color space was matched in 18 minutes.

Curious, how does MakeRGBPat compare to that time?

--
Chris Thomas, [e-mail]

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>From [e-mail] (Juri Munkki)
Date: 6 Jan 1996 07:17:20 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology

In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Chris Thomas) writes:
>Curious, how does MakeRGBPat compare to that time?

It's difficult to say, because MakeRGBPat works by setting up a color
pattern without actually doing the color lookups. So the actual time
spent in MakeRGBPat is probably short.

Then, when you start drawing, QuickDraw looks up the colors. Since
there are up to four colors, it probably calls Color2Index at least
twice and most likely four times (I haven't checked).

If your drawing spans several displays with different color tables,
I assume QD has to redo the mapping each time for each different
device, since it only stores one pattern at a time.

So, the advantage of MakeRGBpat seems to be that it automatically
adjusts to changing screen depths and color tables.

My code is used when the cached patterns cdSeed doesn't match the
device ctSeed. I keep the patterns for each device separetely, so
multiple devices do not cause any overhead in this respect.

Has anyone tried MakeRGBPat with 24 bit and 15 bit color? If it works
the way I suspect it might, you would still get patterns. (It's easy
enough to try...I should probably take five minutes some day and check
what happens.)

I guess the whole point is that they (Apple) didn't want to add special
case code to QuickDraw pattern drawing routines to handle RGBPats and
yet they wanted RGBPats to be independent of the device color map.

I'm feeling a bit fuzzy today, so I'm not sure if this makes sense
to anyone. Sorry.

--
Juri Munkki [e-mail]              Life is easy when polygons are cheap.
http://www.iki.fi/~jmunkki                 Windsurfing: Faster than the wind.

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>From [e-mail] (john calhoun)
Date: 9 Jan 1996 04:49:01 GMT
Organization: Scheherazade Software

In article <4cl7m0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Juri Munkki) wrote:

> Has anyone tried MakeRGBPat with 24 bit and 15 bit color? If it works
> the way I suspect it might, you would still get patterns.

I have, and my experience with it is that you don't in fact get patterns,
but rather get your RGBColor (if it is a "pattern", it is a SOLID pattern
anyway).  So it does the right thing on direct devices.

john calhoun-

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>From [e-mail] (Toby Thain)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:15:04 +1000
Organization: NetSpace Online Systems

In article <jinjur-0801962046540001@165.227.52.125>, [e-mail]
(john calhoun) wrote:

> In article <4cl7m0$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Juri Munkki) wrote:
>
> So it does the right thing on direct devices.

Well, not really the right thing if the idea is to get the closest
approximation to the target colour (which could easily be a combination of
direct colour values, since the target is specified with 16 bits per
channel).


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>From [e-mail] (David B. Zwiefelhofer)
Subject: MoveControl Doesn't Change Dialog Item Rect
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:02:47 -0500
Organization: Utility Reduction Specialists, Inc.

I have a movable modal dialog with controls (check boxes implemented with
control resources) that I need to move around. Unfortunately, moving them
via MoveControl only moves the control's contrlRect and not the item's
rect. Therefore, calls such as DialogSelect don't work.

Does anyone know how to move a dialog item's rect? Obviously it can be
done as AppendDITL does this. How can I?

Thanks,

Dave

--
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Utility Reduction Specialists, Inc.
1605 Monroe Street, Suite 110
Madison, WI  53211-2052
[phone]
[phone] FAX

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>From [e-mail] (David B. Zwiefelhofer)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 16:58:49 -0500
Organization: Utility Reduction Specialists, Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Fr. Degott) wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> i remember this question was asked before…
> From memory, you should use GetDItem() balanced with
> a SetDItem() call to change the item rect.
>
> something like this:
>
> GetDItem(dlog,item,&iType,&iHandle,&iRect);
> SetRect(&newRect,blah,blah,blah,blah);
> SetDItem(dlog,item,iType,iHandle,newRect);
>

Thanks. I guess I had one of those "where are my glasses?!" kind of
things. There they were, on top of my head the whole time!

-Dave

--
David B. Zwiefelhofer
Utility Reduction Specialists, Inc.
1605 Monroe Street, Suite 110
Madison, WI  53211-2052
[phone]
[phone] FAX

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>From [e-mail] (RickGenter)
Date: 12 Jan 1996 05:18:27 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

>>>
Does anyone know how to move a dialog item's rect? Obviously it can be
done as AppendDITL does this. How can I?
<<<

Call GetDialogItem (GetDItem using the old routine names), which returns
the dialog item rectangle, type and handle, change the rectangle, then
call SetDialogItem (SetDItem) to pass the change to the Dialog Manager.

Rick Genter
Papyrus Design Group, Inc.

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>From [e-mail] (Jeff Gunn)
Subject: Newbie help with events....
Date: 9 Jan 1996 21:52:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire

        Okay - I'm very familiar with programming in C and C++, but I'm
just starting out with mac programming.  I'm using CodeWarrior.  I've
succeeded in producing a window and displaying it, and having it disappear
as soon as the mouse button is pressed.  I want something more useful.
I want to implement the close box, so the window stays open until I click
the close box.  I think I need to use "WaitNextEvent", but I'm not sure.
Anyone with advice or a little code snippet?  Thanks...

                        -Jeff Gunn ([e-mail])

--
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[e-mail]               | Computing and Information Services
        ----                    | University of New Hampshire
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  that looks like Jesus and believing you've witnessed the second coming."
                                -Guy Kawasaki


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>From [e-mail] (Ken Long)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 03:11:29 GMT
Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)

Jeff Gunn ([e-mail]) wrote:
:       Okay - I'm very familiar with programming in C and C++, but I'm
: just starting out with mac programming.  I'm using CodeWarrior.  I've
: succeeded in producing a window and displaying it, and having it disappear
: as soon as the mouse button is pressed.  I want something more useful.
: I want to implement the close box, so the window stays open until I click
: the close box.  I think I need to use "WaitNextEvent", but I'm not sure.

There are several "snippets" on your CW CD.  "SillyBalls" exits on
mouseDown, but some of the other examples don't.  Find one that doesn't
(has close box) and compare the differences to the main loop in that one
to the main loop in yours.

The should be some third party example sources on that CD as well.

-Ken-

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>From [e-mail] (Sam Huffman)
Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 22:14:13 -0500
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <4cuo3a$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Jeff Gunn) wrote:

 >         Okay - I'm very familiar with programming in C and C++, but I'm
 > just starting out with mac programming.  I'm using CodeWarrior.  I've
 > succeeded in producing a window and displaying it, and having it disappear
 > as soon as the mouse button is pressed.  I want something more useful.
 > I want to implement the close box, so the window stays open until I click
 > the close box.  I think I need to use "WaitNextEvent", but I'm not sure.
 > Anyone with advice or a little code snippet?  Thanks...
 >
 >                         -Jeff Gunn ([e-mail])

Well here's a simple example. Sorry it's not terribly complete - just
grabbed it out of a program I happened to have open. You'll need to write
the code for most of the functions. Actually you can just comment out most
of what you're not using. For good examples check sumex-aim
(ftp://mirrors.aol.com/pub/info-mac/ or something like that) in the
development/source directory.

Boolean gDone = false;

void main(void)
{
   InitMacintosh();

   while (!gDone) EventLoop();
   QuitProgram();
}

void EventLoop(void)
{
   EventRecord theEvent;
   OSErr iErr;

   if (WaitNextEvent(everyEvent, &theEvent, 0xFFFFFFFF, NULL)) {
      switch(theEvent.what) {
         case mouseDown:
            HandleMouseDown(&theEvent);
            break;

         case kHighLevelEvent:
            iErr = AEProcessAppleEvent(&theEvent);
            break;

         case keyDown:
         case autoKey:
            if ((theEvent.modifiers & cmdKey) != 0)
               HandleMenuChoice(MenuKey(theEvent.message & charCodeMask));
            else HandleKey(theEvent.message & charCodeMask);
            break;

         case updateEvt:
            HandleUpdate((WindowPtr)theEvent.message);
            break;

         case activateEvt:
            HandleActivate(&theEvent);
            break;

         default:
            HandleNull();
            break;
      }
   }
}

void HandleMouseDown(EventRecord *theEvent)
{
   WindowPtr theWindow;
   short thePart;
   long menuChoice;

   thePart = FindWindow(theEvent->where, &theWindow);
   switch(thePart) {
      case inMenuBar:
         menuChoice = MenuSelect(theEvent->where);
         HandleMenuChoice(menuChoice);
         break;

      case inSysWindow:
         SystemClick(theEvent, theWindow);
         break;

      case inDrag:
         DragWindow(theWindow, theEvent->where, &qd.screenBits.bounds);
         break;

      case inContent:
         if (theWindow == FrontWindow()) HandleClick(theWindow, theEvent);
         else SelectWindow(theWindow);
         break;

      case inGoAway:
         if (TrackGoAway(theWindow, theEvent->where) == true) {
            CloseMyWindow(theWindow);
         }
         break;
   }
}

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>From [e-mail] (David)
Subject: Oh where has my CODE 0 gone?
Date: 6 Jan 1996 17:19:54 -0500
Organization: Interport Communications Corp.

I've noticed that CODE 0 never seems to be present in an application's
heap. (Is this in fact universally true?) I've tried making it protected,
preloading, and locked in Resedit, but it still doesn't show up. Where
does this elusive little resource go when it's loaded? How do you
find it in Macsbug? (I'm specifically trying to view the CODE 0 of
an application while it's running.) Thanks for any suggestions!

Dave :)

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>From Matt Slot <[e-mail]>
Date: 7 Jan 1996 23:28:56 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

David, [e-mail] writes:
 > I've noticed that CODE 0 never seems to be present in an application's
 > heap. (Is this in fact universally true?) I've tried making it protected,
 > preloading, and locked in Resedit, but it still doesn't show up. Where
 > does this elusive little resource go when it's loaded? How do you
 > find it in Macsbug? (I'm specifically trying to view the CODE 0 of
 > an application while it's running.) Thanks for any suggestions!

CODE 0 is the Jump Table, and gets loaded just above A5 (app globals
reside below A5), and stays resident throughout the applications
execution. Remember that all other CODE resources may be loaded or
unloaded at any time (well, not the currently executing one), since
the Jump Table entry actually loads the resource on demand.

Check out the Segment Loader chapter in NIM:Processes for more
information.

Matt

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>From [e-mail] (Patrick Stadelmann)
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 10:15:27 +0100
Organization: University of Neuchatel

In article <4cmsia$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (David) wrote:

> I've noticed that CODE 0 never seems to be present in an application's
> heap. (Is this in fact universally true?) I've tried making it protected,
> preloading, and locked in Resedit, but it still doesn't show up. Where
> does this elusive little resource go when it's loaded? How do you
> find it in Macsbug? (I'm specifically trying to view the CODE 0 of
> an application while it's running.) Thanks for any suggestions!

The CODE 0 is the jump table. You can display it in MacsBug by
typing "jumptable" (or something like that). I believe that the
content of the resource is copied in the correct memory location
(at a5+$20), then the resource is released.

Patrick

--
Patrick Stadelmann <[e-mail]>

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>From [e-mail] (Milo Shiff)
Date: 09 Jan 1996 02:55:29 GMT
Organization: Los Angeles Macintosh Group BBS

In message ID <4cmsia$[e-mail]> on 1/6/96, David wrote:

D> I've noticed that CODE 0 never seems to be present in an application's
D> heap. (Is this in fact universally true?) I've tried making it protected,
D> preloading, and locked in Resedit, but it still doesn't show up. Where
D> does this elusive little resource go when it's loaded? How do you
D> find it in Macsbug? (I'm specifically trying to view the CODE 0 of
D> an application while it's running.) Thanks for any suggestions!

   CODE zero exists as information for the OS in setting up the application
heap and the A5 relative items.

- via BulkRate 2.1

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>From [e-mail] (Milo Shiff)
Date: 10 Jan 1996 03:08:22 GMT
Organization: Los Angeles Macintosh Group BBS

Matt Slot,[e-mail],Internet SAID:

<<<Remember that all other CODE resources may be loaded or
unloaded at any time (well, not the currently executing one)>>>

   Well, actually you CAN unload the currently executing CODE segment -- a
mistake I made in a program a few years back, with predictably adverse
results....


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>From [e-mail] (William Rose)
Subject: The Required Apple Events (i.e. are they)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 18:48:07 +1100
Organization: W.R.R.J. Incorporated

   I have not done much programming with apple events yet, but I know that
good people implement handlers for four of them, (from memory) 'oapp',
'odoc', 'pdoc' and 'quit'.  I understand the purpose of the quit event.
   Question 1:
   i)  Given the above, in an application that creates no files is it
necessary to implement 'odoc' & 'pdoc'?
   ii) In an application that doesn't support printing, is it necessary to
support 'pdoc'?
   Question 2:
   What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?  I figure, you're
program opens (from finder, LaunchApplication call or something).  For C
programmers, main is entered and things start rolling.  You do your
initialisation, set up apple event handlers, etc and then go into the
major event loop.  Why do you need a separate event to tell you 'in case
you hadn't noticed, you were just opened.'?  It shouldn't be to do
activate/deactivate stuff, there are perfectly good event manager events
for that.  Please, somebody, why?

Thanks for reading,
   William Rose

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>From Carl R. Osterwald <[e-mail]>
Date: 9 Jan 1996 16:31:49 GMT
Organization: National Renewable Energy Laboratory

In article <[e-mail]> William
Rose, [e-mail] writes:

>   I have not done much programming with apple events yet, but I know that
>good people implement handlers for four of them, (from memory) 'oapp',
>'odoc', 'pdoc' and 'quit'.  I understand the purpose of the quit event.
>   Question 1:
>   i)  Given the above, in an application that creates no files is it
>necessary to implement 'odoc' & 'pdoc'?

Does the app open files?  If so, you will need to handle the odoc event.

>   ii) In an application that doesn't support printing, is it necessary to
>support 'pdoc'?

If this is just a quick program for testing something that will never
see the light of day, you can certainly get by without them.  But real
applications should because if they aren't there, the Finder goes
through some machinations to simulate them.  Also, they are really easy
to implement, even if they are never called.  I just do something like
this (the handler has to installed, of course):

static pascal OSErr handle_pdoc_apple_event
  (AppleEvent *message, AppleEvent *reply, long refcon)
  {
    return( all_required_params_extracted(message) );
  }  // handle_pdoc_apple_event

OSErr all_required_params_extracted (AppleEvent *message)
  {
    OSErr    result;
    DescType  returned_type;
    Size    actual_size;

    result = AEGetAttributePtr
        (message, keyMissedKeywordAttr, typeWildCard,
         &returned_type, nil, 0, &actual_size);
    switch (result)
      {
        case errAEDescNotFound:
          return(noErr);
        case noErr:
          return(errAEEventNotHandled);
        default:
          return(result);
      }
  }  // all_required_params_extracted

>   Question 2:
>   What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?  I figure, you're
>program opens (from finder, LaunchApplication call or something).

The oapp is how the Finder tells your application how it was opened. If
a file belonging to your app was double-clicked (or opened from the File
menu in the Finder), the app receives an odoc event.  If the application
itself was opened without a file, the Finder sends an oapp event.

Hope this helps.

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>From "Andrew C. Plotkin" <[e-mail]>
Date: Tue,  9 Jan 1996 12:14:23 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

[e-mail] (William Rose) writes:
>    I have not done much programming with apple events yet, but I know that
> good people implement handlers for four of them, (from memory) 'oapp',
> 'odoc', 'pdoc' and 'quit'.  I understand the purpose of the quit event.
>    Question 1:
>    i)  Given the above, in an application that creates no files is it
> necessary to implement 'odoc' & 'pdoc'?

You should probably install handlers for them, but it's ok if the
handlers do nothing.

>    ii) In an application that doesn't support printing, is it necessary to
> support 'pdoc'?

Yes. You should at least have a handler which puts up a dialog which
reads "TwiddleStar documents cannot be printed. Sorry."

>    Question 2:
>    What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?

The OApp event is *only* received when your application is run by
itself. You do *not* get an OApp if your application is launched
because someone double-clicked (or printed) a document.

The typical thing to do when you get OApp is create an empty document
called "Untitled".

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."

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>From [e-mail] (Mike Cohen)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 10:32:13 -0600
Organization: ISIS International

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (William Rose) wrote:

>   I have not done much programming with apple events yet, but I know that
>good people implement handlers for four of them, (from memory) 'oapp',
>'odoc', 'pdoc' and 'quit'.  I understand the purpose of the quit event.
>   Question 1:
>   i)  Given the above, in an application that creates no files is it
>necessary to implement 'odoc' & 'pdoc'?
>   ii) In an application that doesn't support printing, is it necessary to
>support 'pdoc'?

In those cases, it's OK not to handle those events.

>   Question 2:
>   What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?  I figure, you're
>program opens (from finder, LaunchApplication call or something).  For C
>programmers, main is entered and things start rolling.  You do your
>initialisation, set up apple event handlers, etc and then go into the
>major event loop.  Why do you need a separate event to tell you 'in case
>you hadn't noticed, you were just opened.'?  It shouldn't be to do
>activate/deactivate stuff, there are perfectly good event manager events
>for that.  Please, somebody, why?
>

'oapp' is sent when your application is double-clicked without a document
(as opposed to 'odoc', which is sent when a document is double-clicked). In
most cases, you should do the appropriate thing for that case, such as
opening a new untitled document.


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>From [e-mail] (Des Courtney)
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 23:51:58 -0500
Organization: Flair Diversions

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (William Rose) wrote:

)    Question 2:
)    What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?
[snip]

One reason "Open Application" exists is as a way to determine if the
  application was opened directly or via opening a document.  "odoc"
  events are sent before the "oapp" event if the program is launched
  with documents.  You can then use the "odoc" handler to cause
  different actions to occur based on this.

A common trick for "drag-on" and "helper" apps is to keep the
  program running after a direct launch, but to auto-quit when
  opening documents are manipulated.  In this case, the "oapp"
  handler would send a "quit" event if it detected that a "odoc"
  event was received first.

Hope this makes sense,

Des Courtney

--
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         Outpost Nexus, Ambiance, Icons for MICN, etc.
                   mailto:[e-mail]
               Obligatory ASCII graphic --> (-;

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>From [e-mail] (Deirdre)
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:24:00 -0500
Organization: Hah!

I always support all four required events even in teensy little
applications that have no documents. I just make 'odoc' and 'pdoc' an
empty function.

For the oapp event, you may want to do some specific initialization. Other
than that, I don't "get" why it's there either. I just make that an empty
function too. It is in theory possible that you wil get this event after
your app has been running for some time.

I suspect that the 'oapp' event may be for future compatibility, which is
why I always support it.

_Deirdre

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (William Rose) wrote:

> I have not done much programming with apple events yet, but I know that
> good people implement handlers for four of them, (from memory) 'oapp',
> 'odoc', 'pdoc' and 'quit'.  I understand the purpose of the quit event.
>    Question 1:
>    i)  Given the above, in an application that creates no files is it
> necessary to implement 'odoc' & 'pdoc'?
>    ii) In an application that doesn't support printing, is it necessary to
> support 'pdoc'?
>    Question 2:
>    What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?  I figure, you're
> program opens (from finder, LaunchApplication call or something).  For C
> programmers, main is entered and things start rolling.  You do your
> initialisation, set up apple event handlers, etc and then go into the
> major event loop.  Why do you need a separate event to tell you 'in case
> you hadn't noticed, you were just opened.'?  It shouldn't be to do
> activate/deactivate stuff, there are perfectly good event manager events
> for that.  Please, somebody, why?

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>From [e-mail] (Jeffrey Kraus)
Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 22:55:12 -0800
Organization: Berbee Information Networks Corporation

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Deirdre) wrote:

> I always support all four required events even in teensy little
> applications that have no documents. I just make 'odoc' and 'pdoc' an
> empty function.
>
> For the oapp event, you may want to do some specific initialization. Other
> than that, I don't "get" why it's there either. I just make that an empty
> function too. It is in theory possible that you wil get this event after
> your app has been running for some time.
>
> I suspect that the 'oapp' event may be for future compatibility, which is
> why I always support it.
>

I have my program use the 'oapp' to check it's preference file and open
the last file that was opened. If the program receives an 'odoc' it opens
the specified file.

I do this since my program only views documents and does not create them
and is only usefull when a document is open.

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>From [e-mail] (Dave Nebinger)
Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:21:51 -0500
Organization: KHP Services, Inc

In article <75103.761-1201962255120001@msn_3_1.binc.net>,
[e-mail] (Jeffrey Kraus) wrote:

> In article <[e-mail]>,
> [e-mail] (Deirdre) wrote:
>
> > I always support all four required events even in teensy little
> > applications that have no documents. I just make 'odoc' and 'pdoc' an
> > empty function.
> >

If an app doesn't support printing, shouldn't you *not* include a pdoc handler
to have the apple event manager return the errAEEventNotHandled error?  Why
make a script or AE-aware application think that you successfully handled
an event that you don't or can't handle?

> > For the oapp event, you may want to do some specific initialization. Other
> > than that, I don't "get" why it's there either. I just make that an empty
> > function too. It is in theory possible that you wil get this event after
> > your app has been running for some time.
> >
> > I suspect that the 'oapp' event may be for future compatibility, which is
> > why I always support it.
> >
>
> I have my program use the 'oapp' to check it's preference file and open
> the last file that was opened. If the program receives an 'odoc' it opens
> the specified file.

The IM:IAC says that 'oapp's should do what a non-AE aware app would do
when it starts up (i.e. open a new document window if a text editor, etc.).

A recent addition to the registry for the AppleScript suite is a 'No Operation'
event which should do nothing on application launch.  From the AppleScript
Suite document:

"The No Operation event can be used as an alternative to the standard launch
events sent by the Finder: Open Application, Open Documents, and Print
Documents.  It indicates that the application is being launched by a script,
which will subsequently send more events.  There are two reasons for the
No Operation event: 1> From a scripting point of view, most applications perform
undesireable actions when they receive the standard Open Application event.  For
example, they open a new document, or display a modal dialog waiting for
user response.  2) The event an application is launched with cannoth have a
reply, thus no erros are returned to the script.  No Operation event, when used
for launching, will avoid the standard double-click behavior, and allow
subsequent events to return error replies."

Dave.

==========================================================
Dave Nebinger                             [e-mail]
             The Alt.Sources.Mac Archivist

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>From [e-mail] (Chris Waskowich)
Date: 12 Jan 1996 16:14:22 GMT
Organization: University of Connecticut

In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (William Rose) wrote:

>    Question 2:
>    What on earth is the point of the 'oapp' event?



I have an app that I wrote, this is what happens:

case 1:  If I double  click the app, it opens with the standard open
dialog.  I do this thorugh 'oapp'.

case 2:  I drop a file on my app, but I really don't feel like getting the
standard open dialog box, so it just opens the file instead.


Other than that I have no clue what else you wuld use it for...



Chris Waskowich


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>From [e-mail] (The Grinch)
Subject: Turning on Sharing
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 17:59:10 -0500
Organization: Vortex Software

I am writing a big old installer and a half. It runs local on each
computer in a lab, logs onto a central server or two, and basically copies
most of the server's HD. In this way we can set up the lab unattended over
night.

MY PROBLEM IS THIS:
  I'd like to be able to automate the setting of access privs and the
configuring of share points (shared directories). However, it seems (by
the errors I get) that I'm not allowed to establish share points when file
sharing is off. So how do I turn the silly thing on? Vinfo? PRAM? I'd
really be grateful for some code, but please drop me a line if you just
know where the info is stored.
  Also, if anybody has a chunk of code to copy access privs from one
folder to another, please post it! It would save me quite a bit of work.

Please e-mail your replies. And thanx for the help!

-The Grinch

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>From [e-mail] (Joe Zobkiw)
Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 08:53:16 -0500
Organization: TripleSoft Inc.

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(The Grinch) wrote:

>I am writing a big old installer and a half. It runs local on each
>computer in a lab, logs onto a central server or two, and basically copies
>most of the server's HD. In this way we can set up the lab unattended over
>night.

I presume you've looked at the programs that exist to do this already.
Just in case one of them works for you, you wouldn't have to re-invent the
wheel.

>MY PROBLEM IS THIS:
>  I'd like to be able to automate the setting of access privs and the
>configuring of share points (shared directories). However, it seems (by
>the errors I get) that I'm not allowed to establish share points when file
>sharing is off. So how do I turn the silly thing on? Vinfo? PRAM? I'd
>really be grateful for some code, but please drop me a line if you just
>know where the info is stored.

You simply launch the File Sharing faceless-background-application using
LaunchApplication(...). That is how you start it. To quit it, simply send
it a 'quit' AppleEvent.

>  Also, if anybody has a chunk of code to copy access privs from one
>folder to another, please post it! It would save me quite a bit of work.

Look for MoreFiles (1.4 is the latest)...you can get it from here
<ftp://users.aol.com/jumplong/MoreFiles_1.4.sea.bin>

Good luck!

Joe Zobkiw                         <mailto:[e-mail]>
TripleSoft Inc.                      <http://www.triplesoft.com/>
Specializing in Custom Macintosh Software Development & Solutions
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>From [e-mail] (Jump Long)
Date: 7 Jan 1996 14:54:35 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

Joe Zobkiw responded to The Grinch with:
>>MY PROBLEM IS THIS:
>>  I'd like to be able to automate the setting of access privs and the
>>configuring of share points (shared directories). However, it seems (by
>>the errors I get) that I'm not allowed to establish share points when
file
>>sharing is off. So how do I turn the silly thing on? Vinfo? PRAM? I'd
>>really be grateful for some code, but please drop me a line if you just
>>know where the info is stored.
>
>You simply launch the File Sharing faceless-background-application using
>LaunchApplication(...). That is how you start it. To quit it, simply send
>it a 'quit' AppleEvent.

Really, you should use the Server Control call SCStartServer. Get the
AppleShare API from Apple's Mac OS SDK CD-ROM - there's sample code with
the SDK that shows how to do that.

The source code for UnmountIt and Server Remote Control (two programs I
wrote) also shows how to call SCStartServer. You can download the source
code for UnmountIt at:

ftp://sam.austin.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Developer_Services/Tool_Ches
t/Files/UnmountIt_1.2.sit.hqx

and Server Romote Control can be obtained from:

ftp://sam.austin.apple.com/Apple.Support.Area/Developer_Services/Tool_Ches
t/Interapplication_Communication/Server_Remote_Control_1.1/Server_Remote_Co
ntrol_1.1.sit.hqx

>>  Also, if anybody has a chunk of code to copy access privs from one
>>folder to another, please post it! It would save me quite a bit of work.
>
>Look for MoreFiles (1.4 is the latest)...you can get it from here
><ftp://users.aol.com/jumplong/MoreFiles_1.4.sea.bin>

Actually, you'll want toget MoreFiles 1.4.1 which I released last night
from:

ftp://members.aol.com/JumpLong/MoreFiles 1.4.1.sea.hqx

You can use the routine CopyDirectoryAccess to do that. The
CopyDirectoryAccess function copies the AFP directory access privileges
from one directory to another. Both directories *must* be on the same file
server, but not necessarily on the same server volume.  Why? Because if
the volumes are on different servers, there's no way you can guarantee
that the user on server "A" with the name "Jim Luther" is the same user as
the user on server "B" named "Jim Luther", so I don't let you make that
assumption with CopyDirectoryAccess.

- Jim Luther

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>From [e-mail] (Jump Long)
Subject: [ANN] MoreFiles v1.4.1 now available
Date: 7 Jan 1996 04:08:57 -0500
Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364)

[ANN] MoreFiles v1.4.1 now available

Don't you hate it when you rush to beat a deadline and miss a couple of
stupid bugs? I know I do because I have to release an update. In my case,
I rushed MoreFiles 1.4 out the door to make it available before the
holidays... and then started receiving bug reports.

I've fixed all bugs reported (and rechecked my other 1.4 changes), so
MoreFiles 1.4.1 is now available at:

  ftp://members.aol.com/JumpLong/MoreFiles 1.4.1.sea.hqx

I've pasted the release notes for MoreFile 1.4.1 in case you're wondering
what didn't work.

Happy New Year!

Jim Luther
[e-mail]
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v1.4.1  1/6/96

Bugs fixed:
*  Fixed the conditionalized code FSpCreateCompat.
*  Fixed the conditionalized code FSpExchangeFilesCompat.
*  Fixed the conditionalized code FSpCreateResFileCompat.

Other changes:
*  Changed PBStatus(&pb, false) to PBStatusSync(&pb) in GetDiskBlocks.


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